{"id":1371,"date":"2011-03-10T22:43:08","date_gmt":"2011-03-11T03:43:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/?p=1371"},"modified":"2011-03-10T22:43:08","modified_gmt":"2011-03-11T03:43:08","slug":"12-step-programs-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/?p=1371","title":{"rendered":"12 step programs &#038; God."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Religion is a touchy subject for most people and like politics is best not discussed unless you want to get into some crazy kind of debate that could last for hours on end and with a few punches thrown here and there.\u00a0 Or you know if you live in the US you might end up shot or something&#8230;\u00a0 After all guns come with bank accounts or something like that.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I know a few people in 12 step programs for various reasons.\u00a0 There\\&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.\u00a0 However after having a conversation with a co-worker of mine and my own personal thoughts of being catholic and how I have essentially denounced my religion and instead choose to focus on <em>my own set of beliefs<\/em> and have faith in what I choose to.\u00a0 I don\\&#8217;t discuss these with anyone, it\\&#8217;s none of their business.\u00a0 I do however agree with my co-worker when she said it\\&#8217;s the faith that you have in your heart that matters.<\/p>\n<p><em>She\\&#8217;s got an impeccable point. I wholly agree with it. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Strangely enough this whole conversation started with her asking about life in Ontario in terms of health care and stuff which somehow led to immigration and my re-telling of the story of the Muslim mother who cried discrimination because her religion wasn\\&#8217;t being respected in a <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><strong>Catholic <\/strong><\/span>based institution of learning.\u00a0 Which in turn led to the discussion of why I am no longer a \\&#8221;practicing catholic\\&#8221; I can\\&#8217;t say I ever really was.\u00a0 I\\&#8217;m not a big church goer and really only go when I have to.\u00a0 IE: weddings, funerals and so forth.\u00a0 Although I went through all the steps of getting my first communion and all that other stuff&#8230;\u00a0 My dear grandmother is likely rolling in her grave right about now (sorry Nan I mean no disrespect).<\/p>\n<p>Now don\\&#8217;t get me wrong, I have no issues with anyone\\&#8217;s religious choices.\u00a0 As a matter of fact I am innately curious about most cultures and their spiritual beliefs and working in a daycare that has a wide range of cultures and backgrounds most parents are usually more then happy to indulge my innate curiosity about why they do this that and the other thing as are my friends.\u00a0 Which is awesome.\u00a0 I am a nerdy girl after all and I love to learn.<\/p>\n<p>However, there are some aspects of organized religion that disturb me.\u00a0 Especially Catholicism.\u00a0 No one likes a hypocrite and well the catholic religion is FULL of it.\u00a0 Can\\&#8217;t use birth control in any form, and countless other things that I simply will not get into because I believe that everyone has a right to choose and the right to their opinion and this isn\\&#8217;t the place for a hardcore debate.\u00a0 However the one thing that really rubs me the wrong way is say for example a child is born with Down syndrome, which is sad in and of itself depending on the severity and the deeply religious will tell you that that\\&#8217;s \\&#8221;God\\&#8217;s way\\&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><em>Sure, I bet they don\\&#8217;t have any special needs children now do they? <\/em><\/p>\n<p>That\\&#8217;s OK, except it\\&#8217;s not OK to be Gay or some other sexual based \\&#8221;affliction\\&#8221; (pardon the term, I mean no disrespect) such as being transgendered and so forth.\u00a0 Although as it was explained to me once, you do what comes naturally to you.\u00a0 Being gay is something you\\&#8217;re pretty much born with.\u00a0 OK not pretty much, you just are.\u00a0 Whatever, you know what I mean.\u00a0 So it\\&#8217;s OK to say that God wanted your child to be born \\&#8221;UN-perfect\\&#8221; except for that?\u00a0 Um, right&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I love how other religions are ceremonious.\u00a0 I\\&#8217;ll ask people why is it that you do or don\\&#8217;t do that and I always get a well explained answer.\u00a0 Things that appear meaningful and special and spiritual.\u00a0 I get that, I also respect it.\u00a0 Even if I on occasion don\\&#8217;t understand it or agree with all of it.\u00a0 Some of it is actually quite nice.<\/p>\n<p>Then you have the Catholics:\\&#8221;What do you mean we can\\&#8217;t do that?\\&#8221; \\&#8221;Says who?\\&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Answer: God said no, or the pope or it was written in the bible that was re-written several times over and has become a literature style version of the telephone game.<\/p>\n<p><em>Right. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>I\\&#8217;ve read parts of the bible and parts of it do make some sense <em>to a degree<\/em>.\u00a0 I only say that because some of those things occur in the here and now.\u00a0 So ladies you can pretty much blame Eve for all the crappy things that happen to us.\u00a0 She was a bitch apparently.\u00a0 Thanks for nothing!<\/p>\n<p>Anyway&#8230;\u00a0 What does that have to do with 12 step programs?\u00a0 A lot actually.\u00a0 You see I suffer from a form of depression, brought on by circumstance.\u00a0 I also have a form of OCD and get afflicted with <a href=\\\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Seasonal_affective_disorder\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\">SAD (seasonal affective disorder)<\/a> during these long ass, crappy winter months.\u00a0 All in all a lethal cocktail of mental illness.\u00a0 Something happened over the course of last week that I am not proud of and could have very well damaged a relationship I have with someone that I cherish dearly.\u00a0 It was then that I decided to throw in the towel and decided to seek help.<\/p>\n<p>I flat out refuse to go on medication.\u00a0 I feel that as a society we are over labeling and over medicating ourselves.\u00a0 Most Dr\\&#8217;s do not want to take the time to actually find out what the root cause of your problems are.\u00a0 They just whip out a prescription pad and send you on your way.\u00a0 Therapy is pretty damn costly and seeing as how I studied psychotherapy and I am also a certified suicide intervention specialist I would rather not pay someone else to tell me what I already know.<\/p>\n<p>Although a little help and support could prove to be beneficial for just about anyone who\\&#8217;s had the same amount of shit dumped on them as I have in the past little while.\u00a0 Not that I\\&#8217;m having a pity party for myself, it\\&#8217;s just been a really rough time for me since Jason died, and loosing another friend and countless other things hasn\\&#8217;t \\&#8221;helped\\&#8221;.\u00a0 Not only that I have an ass load of baggage that really needs to just go.\u00a0 So off to the internet I go and goggled something to the effect of a 12 step program for depression.\u00a0 Figuring that\u00a0 I <em>might <\/em>get some help and support that I am in dire need of.\u00a0 In a far more cost effective fashion at that since most of them are run on donations and so forth and don\\&#8217;t have a set price per se.<\/p>\n<p><em>The problem?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Every single one of them makes a ton of references to God and or religion.\u00a0 I personally don\\&#8217;t agree with this and it makes me Uncomfortable.\u00a0 As I mentioned, I have my own set of beliefs that\u00a0 I keep to myself and don\\&#8217;t need anyone cramming biblical quotes into every orifice of my body.\u00a0 While this may not apply to <em>all<\/em> 12 step programs, the one\\&#8217;s I have found that deal specifically with what ails me personally pretty much center around religion.<\/p>\n<p>I\\&#8217;m not down with that.\u00a0 Although I think I have found something that just might be what I need, as in specific to dealing with the issues I face everyday without bringing God into the equation.\u00a0 I mean hey, if it get\\&#8217;s you through the day and brings you comfort, there is <span style=\\\"text-decoration: underline;\\\"><strong>NOTHING<\/strong><\/span> wrong with that.\u00a0 It\\&#8217;s just something that doesn\\&#8217;t work for <strong>ME <\/strong>personally.\u00a0 Just thought I would point that out before someone attempts to burn me alive or something.\u00a0 Got that haters? Good.<\/p>\n<p>Although, one is left to wonder do they bring religion into the equation because everyone needs something to believe in?<\/p>\n<p><em>Why not work on believing in yourself first? <\/em> <em> <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Religion is a touchy subject for most people and like politics is best not discussed unless you want to get into some crazy kind of debate that could last for hours on end and with a few punches thrown here and there.\u00a0 Or you know if you live in the US you might end up [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[64],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1371","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-deep-thoughts-with-steph"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1371","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1371"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1371\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1371"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1371"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/modologyworld.net\/steph\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1371"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}